I've heard nothing but bad things about that model and the cost of replacing the belt, that's probably why so many are available at that age.

 

I think Honda recommend that the belts are changed every 5 years or 75000 miles, whichever comes first. If you do not have it changed and it fails it generally "destroys" the engine, in the case of an interference one; there was a post on here recently about one that had failed. According to Honda's website the cost of replacement is £1599, but I believe this has recently increased from ~£1000.

Are you being had? Assuming Honda have not changed their requirements for replacement of the belt since you purchased the vehicle, probably not. Considering the belt is a service item and costs £1.6k to replace, definitely.

If I owned one I think I would be looking to replace it, although I have heard rumours that garage forecourts have a considerable number of them that are 4 years old/have ~65k-70k on the clock.

 

Yesterday my timing belt broke on the outside lane of the M1 with no hard shoulder. Lucky to still be alive. Now with the Honda dealer who are doing diagnostic checks. 54000 miles on my car. Very disappointed. Very concerned this could have done huge damage. Does any one know if it has like damaged the valves?

 

Hi,

This happened to mine but I was on the side of the M25 with no hard shoulder! Currently under going a claim with Honda now as the repairs for my car have come to £15,500!! My car was coming up to 6 years old and at 60,000 miles. I was told by the Honda dealership that it should be down once it's 6 or at 75,000. I had it booked in to be changed on the date they told me too following a service.

 

The 1 litre 10G Civic rubber timing belt, not chain, runs in oil and is a known weak spot. The bill to replace the belt alone is about £1,350 compared to about £375 to replace the 1.5L chain. The year 6 1L service can be £2k with all the work needed. Quite a few have failed and as you have posted, causes enough damage to write off the engine.

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My timing belt has just gone at 55000 miles causing terminal damage. The car is a 2017 with full service history.....

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Yes, it's with the dealer. We have to pay diagnostic fee plus fee to remove and strip engine and investigate fault. Honda are waiting on engineer's report before deciding whether to cover cost of repairing/replacing engine. Warranty company are taking the same stance. Bill is potentially £6k+. Furious as car was only 8 weeks outside manufacturer's warranty....

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Timing belt snapped, anyone know good engine repair garages in Liverpool, Knowsley, Prescot area, thanks

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Thanks, been offered 6k for it as it is, or 4k to get it fixed, but sure what to do

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The 1 litre 10G Civic rubber timing belt, not chain, runs in oil and is a known weak spot. The bill to replace the belt alone is about £1,350 compared to about £375 to replace the 1.5L chain. The year 6 1L service can be £2k with all the work needed. Quite a few have failed and as you have posted, causes enough damage to write off the engine.

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The 1 litre 10G Civic rubber timing belt, not chain, runs in oil and is a known weak spot. The bill to replace the belt alone is about £1,350 compared to about £375 to replace the 1.5L chain. The year 6 1L service can be £2k with all the work needed. Quite a few have failed and as you have posted, causes enough damage to write off the engine.

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Thanks for your reply. I think the car is only worth about 7k. The cam belt breaking may have written it off. I think the cam belt should be changed at 65000 (according to service schedule) so mine should not have snapped. I've contacted Honda UK and now have a complaint/reference number so I'm hoping that they will bear some of the cost. But this incident has destroyed my confidence in Honda. £1600 is the cost to replace the belt alone which is ridiculous. I suppose we should count ourselves lucky to still be alive after breakdown in the outside lane of the M1

 

I know all about the carnage a live lane breakdown on the motorway can cause - I'm a motorway traffic officer. 👍

 

Luckily for me the traffic was light because of a major accident 2 miles before. A lorry had smashed through the central reservation near Watford Gap Services (Amazingly no one seriously injured) . I managed to get the car to the inside lane, put the hazards on and get my family over the barrier into a pile of brambles, mud and branches. What should I have done if I couldn't get the car to the inside lane before coming to a halt?

 

If you were in the outside lane, try and get as far over to the central reservation as you can, out of your vehicle and step away from the vehicle and in a safe location as possible and ring 999.

 

Okay. Thanks

 

Whoever decided to convert to Smart Motorways needs locking up.

Apparently the systems that detect a stationary vehicle often break for hours on end. Then you get the stupid advice 'if you breakdown, drive to the next layby' .... erm !!!!!

Surely the most logical, safest ploy is to have the inside lane as a hard shoulder then when the traffic slows to a crawl, then open the inside lane. Having a live inside lane when 70mph is possible and with drivers texting and the like is madness.

Rant over.

 

Thankfully my beat is an old fashioned motorway with a hard shoulder.

 

I got the Civic back last week with a brand new engine paid for by Honda following the timing belt break. So I'm very impressed by their goodwill gesture but 2 days later the engine warning light has come on. After diagnosis at the Honda dealer. now the Catalytic converter is working below threshold and Honda will not pay for that because its part of exhaust system. Cost to me £2300 for a new cat.
I just cant believe the prices of Honda parts!!! The car is 5 years old, surely the cat should last longer than that. The timing belt problem must surely be related and they have taken responsibility for that. The whole saga has been going on for more than a month. Expensive and frustrating!!!!

 

Hi,
How did you managed Honda to replace your engine??? My civic 2017 2days ago brokedown and i guess engine needs replacement. Not sure if they will replace it for me😭

 

Have you tried phoning around exhaust fitters, I'm pretty sure you'll get it a lot cheaper than that.

 

No after market cats available. Have to go through Honda unfortunately

 

@paullee
OMG, how did you manage to get honda to replace your engine?
And why so soon after that repair has engine management light gone on?

 

Cats should last 10 years. Either the failure has damaged it or they have.

 

Honda have stopped making the 1 litre engine with a wet belt driven timing mechanism. I think they replaced it without fuss because the belt broke at 50000 miles (too soon) and they are afraid of a recall on this bad design. Peugeot and Ford have similar engines and are in trouble with them.

 

I had my engine replaced too, I'm sitting in my car right nown4 months later with the engine light once again on, I know full well it has something to do with the new belt they have put in.

 

So why has the engine management light on?
They most likely haven't repaired it properly.

 

The engine warning light came on a couple of days after getting the car back with a new engine and turbo assembly. I took it back to the dealer who said the cat was faulty and its £2300 to replace. They think the problem was caused by trying to start the car with a broken timing belt. fuel has damaged the cat. Honda good will does not extend to exhaust components

 

Hi, I've got a 67 plate civic which has only done about 23000 miles. Just dropped it off for a service and MOT and was warned that next year I would have a bill for £1600 on top of the service to replace the timing belt. Looking online I see some places that say the belt should last the lifetime of the engine. Am I being had? If it really does need doing, am I better to trust a main dealer or find somewhere less than £1600? Thanks in advance for any advice. Si

Hi Si, I had the same problem. I took my car in for service and all the works of warning lights came on the garage i took it too after a week of trying to find the problem eventually found out from internal honda bulletin that there is a structural design flaw issue with the wet belt. As the oil lubricates the belt the belt starts to disintegrate and bits of the plastic end up running through out the engine. The garage looked for evidence of this in the sump tray. It was full of rubber particulates. The garage told me to take it to honda who would sort this problem. I took it in had a full engine replacement as well as new air-conditioning system fitted and it cost me nothing. I was told its only certain Hondas that have this issue and they would need to check the cars chassis number but I suggest you bite the bullet and take it to honda for diagnostics. Had j taken my car to a shit garage they would of changed the cam belt but issue would have persisted! Luckily I found a brilliant mechanic who did a thorough investigation and honda fixed the problem. I'm 4 months into a new engine however the same thing is happening again. Eventually Honda is going to have to admit and issue a recall for this issue.

The engine warning light came on a couple of days after getting the car back with a new engine and turbo assembly. I took it back to the dealer who said the cat was faulty and its £2300 to replace. They think the problem was caused by trying to start the car with a broken timing belt. fuel has damaged the cat. Honda good will does not extend to exhaust components

 

Gosh, so what are you going to do?

 

I guess I'll have to bite the bullet and pay for a new cat from Honda. The car is probably only worth 10 or 11k so pumping in another 2.3k for a part will hurt

 

@paullee
Waht upsets me the most is that honda never made a recall for all these with targeted catalytic converters as I have had it nicked twice. First time was from my honda accord then civic.

 

I am totally gobsmacked at the prices of parts. The cat is £1650+vat and then you have labour charges on top. Not many can afford to drive Honda now. I need to get something I can afford to maintain, like a Ferrari....

 

😅😂🤣

 

If you change the belt make sure the dealer takes the sump off and clean the oil pump and strainer as over time the belt being fabric wears and fragments of the belt block both the oil pump and strainer staving the engine of oil and causing major problems I have been looking at the 1.0 litre Honda civic but no more would not touch with an extended barcg pole

 

Well, that is the exact reason why I traded my 1.0 for a 1.5, even through I have not encounter any kind of problem in 4 years. The trade in value is quite good now if your car is in good condition, get it fixed under warranty and walk away.

 

Approved Car Parts | Fixed Price Repairs | Honda UK This indicates it is £1195 to replace the belt. What other costs push it up to £1600+? I'm so sad to see this, my last car was a bimmer and I thought I would save money with this honda, it even has more specs than the bimmer for half the price! I do not want to pay £1195 + whatever else.

Is this something that is done in a service then?

thanks
(2018 SR 1L CVT)

 

Do you know any reputable independent garage? I came from owning 1liter as well before I trade the SR cvt in for a prestige cvt. when I asked them, they quote about £800 to get the job done, and lemme tell you something, there will be 2 belts in the tiny engine needs to be replaced, one is the tensioner belt and another is the oil pump belt which is just underneath the tensioner belt, Honda will only change the tensioner belt for you. “The 3 cyl engine basically has the same layout as a 1.0 eco boost.” Quoted by the service manager by Hendy Honda Portsmouth.